New Beginnings Girls academy |
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Consumer reviews about New Beginnings Girls academy |
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Sadie McConathy
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Dec 9, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Sadie McConathy
All I have to say is all you have seen or heard is a huge lie . I myself attended New Beginnings for a year and a half. I can honestly say that it was the best time of my life. The Macs are wonderful people who only want the best for you and your daughters' life .
They do instill Biblical priciples in everything they do. There is nothing wrong with that . It is still a free country and we still have freedom of religion. They never force you to do anything, it is a choice!They only tell you about a loving God who died to take away your sin and your past. That is the best thing anybody can ever do for a person.They tell you because they love you and do not want to see you go to hell. The thing is that you all are not bitter or upset with the Macs or New Beginnings . You are bitter with God.I would take a look at who you are battling with because you can't win when you oppose an almighty
God.He is in control whether you like it or not.I have learned that the hard way. I'll tell you things are so much easier when God is your closest companion. That is what I gained at New Beginnings .A friend who I took with me and who will always be with me. A friend who helped me to conquer the past and who is leading me to a brighter future.If you attended New Beginnings you have the same opportunities as I do. You can either choose the old or the new, God or yourself. You make that choice.God has been good to me by sending me to New Beginnings. Any mom or dad who is reading this, I would encourage you to send your daughter . I assure you it is a wonderful opportunity for your daughter to turn her life around. And anyone who has been to New Beginnings please help me to shed the truth about what really goes on. I love New Beginnings!
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Parrotwithoutpirate
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Dec 9, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Spoiled divas who wouldn't know what real abuse is if it spit in their eye. Spend some time at a battered women's shelter, go to one of their meetings and learn what real abuse of children is. Listen to the stories of what their children lived through.
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No hope.
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Why would we lie about any of this? That would be a waste of time. And we aren't comparing to anything being worse this place. We know there are alot worse of places out there. We are just trying to stop this place. And to the 2nd person above me, I've never heard of you before, it wouldn't surprise me if you are one of the owners of this place. So ya. Nice try with all your biblical talk.
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tmrn8r
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
To get attention!
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tttttttt<3
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
You are getting just as much attention as I am getting on here so I highly doubt that.
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tttttttt<3
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Yup Sadie is a fake, just checked.
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tmrn8r
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
How did you ever guess genius?
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Squibs
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
She is probably using a nic like any intelligent person would on a public website. Only idiots and noobs use their real names. What you term as abuse does not fall under the legal terms of abuse which is why Children's Protective Services could not and would not intervene, as stated by a caseworker in one of the links provided.
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NBGAsurvivor
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Yeeeeeah this Sadie character seems like they might work there, whoever you are...maybe Sarah Mac??? I'm not pointing fingers I just think its funny you say "freedom of religion" Because I know when I was there the Jewish girls didn't get to celebrate their holidays, the Chinese didn't get to ring in the Chinese New Year, and you weren't allowed to be any other religion. ... nope all Christian holidays were celebrated and we were told that we were going to Hell if we didn't conform to their beliefs...How in the heck is that freedom of religion Sadie? Could you please explain that to me? AND they never force you to do anything???...I mean seriously ???. Thats why if you didn't eat all your food you got in major trouble? If you didn't have your clothes, hair, appearance wasn't perfect to the T also, in big trouble, among a MILLION other things I could mention...New Beginnings is joke and they are not helping teenagers, they are greedy con-artists who will take your money and abuse your child, maybe not physically, or maybe so. But definitely mentally. There is no freedom there, you have to do EVERYTHING way or you will majorly suffer..Sicking girls on other girls who don't do what they want them to do..its awful...seriously DON'T SEND YOUR CHILD TO NEW BEGINNINGS. Our group of survivors will not shut up until this facility is SHUT DOWN.
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NBGAsurvivor
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Dec 10, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
And as I stated previously it would take DAYS literally weeks to name off all the horrible stuff that has happened to girls at NBGA, you people have no right to tell us we don't know what abuse is when we all experienced it first hand. Some people have SEVERE mental health issues from being in this place. Some were beaten with 2x4s, mini blind rods, and paddles, force fed, held in stress positions for hours on end, sat on by other girls for hours, plus so much more...you wanna tell me this isn't abuse??
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BrittanyCampbell
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Posted for my friend and fellow NBGA survivor, Katy:
do you think that we just sit around and make up stories of abuse for fun and to fight this &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot;all-mighty God&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;quot; you speak of? That would be quite the social experiment, don&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;#039;t ya think girls?! Ha! I for one know that every individual experience is different, so the fact that you completely discredit the majority of our experiences is ignorant. I am happy for you that you were able to gain a loving relationship with a higher power and through that continue to have spiritual experiences, but some of us did not. It is comforting to know that someone came out of the home feeling better, but I can tell you with certainty that that was not the case for me. I was abused. I was abused emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually. I left that home with abandonment issues, emotional issues, and a very unclear perspective as to what I believed in spiritually. I have since appreciated my experience after years of psychotherapy, after realizing that much can be gained through pain and suffering. I have gained a lot of perspective about what I believe in now when it comes to rigid religion and its parallels it has with cults. People start off with good intentions I&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;#039;m sure, but without a clear vision or guidelines of what they should be doing to help young teenage girls things can start to get messy, and frankly they got REALLY messy. Like I said previously, I&amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;#039;m glad that you had a spiritual awakening, but most of us did not. So if you would please think with compassion and empathy like your savior Jesus would, and try to not judge others for their pain and discredit them. You simply look like an ignorant fool when you do that. Jesus and God would have been outraged and horrified by the things I experience in their name.
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BrittanyCampbell
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Try to make that more clear - had to fix some things.
Posted for my friend and fellow NBGA survivor, Katy:
Do you think that we just sit around and make up stories of abuse for fun and to fight this all-mighty God you speak of? That would be quite the social experiment, don't ya think girls?! Ha! I for one know that every individual experience is different, so the fact that you completely discredit the majority of our experiences is ignorant. I am happy for you that you were able to gain a loving relationship with a higher power and through that continue to have spiritual experiences, but some of us did not. It is comforting to know that someone came out of the home feeling better, but I can tell you with certainty that that was not the case for me. I was abused. I was abused emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually. I left that home with abandonment issues, emotional issues, and a very unclear perspective as to what I believed in spiritually. I have since appreciated my experience after years of psychotherapy, after realizing that much can be gained through pain and suffering. I have gained a lot of perspective about what I believe in now when it comes to rigid religion and its parallels it has with cults. People start off with good intentions I'm sure, but without a clear vision or guidelines of what they should be doing to help young teenage girls things can start to get messy, and frankly they got REALLY messy. Like I said previously, Im glad that you had a spiritual awakening, but most of us did not. So if you would please think with compassion and empathy like your savior Jesus would, and try to not judge others for their pain and discredit them. You simply look like an ignorant fool when you do that. Jesus and God would have been outraged and horrified by the things I experience in their name.
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Simone Jones
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Here is some information for you in regards to NBGA:
You will find all of the documents, articles and complaints against NBGA at the site listed below.
http://www.heal-online.org/newbeg.htm
At the link listed below, you can see literaly thousands of pages of confirmedly abusive childrens homes/programs. For those of you who think these girls are lying, shame on you! They were CHILDREN and they had no choice! There was no one to listen to them, as their voices were taken away from them the second they arrived at NBGA. They aren't disgruntled adults, they are now grown women, with careers, with children, and now they have that voice that was taken away from them during thier time at this horrific place. They weren't in the military, or in state custody. They were in the middle of nowhere, with a man who has NO training in this type of field. He has no degree for counseling, no license to have this 'home' open, and not an ounce of compassion for the needs of a group of young teenaged girls. He makes his own rules, doles out unfair punishments, and brainwashes these CHILDREN (by force and fear) into believing in his 'God'. Unless you were there you just dont understand. Stop and listen, imagine if it was you who had to suffer and survive this horrendous abuse, as a young CHILD...
http://www.heal-online.org/
A CHILDHOOD MEMORY, SHOULD NOT BE SURVIVAL...
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Toads Tool
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
There is no reason you people couldn't have called CPS when you got out. There is no reason you people can't call CPS anonymously now and lodge complaints about the facility and alleged abuses so CPS would have to investigate and interview the current residents privately.
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BrittanyCampbell
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
My first attempt at posting didn't work, so hopefully there won't be a duplicate post from me in a few minutes, but just in case I'm posting again.
In response to the above:
...people have.
...people do.
Read the articles associated with this topic and it will make more sense. Do ten minutes of research on the "troubled-teen industry" and it will all make sense. The problem with New Beginnings is just a small piece of a much bigger problem: residential care facilities in the United States which can skirt around the law, investigation, regulation, and oversight. There have been thousands of similar cases, hundreds of homes and hundreds of survivor group and advocacy group activists getting things done. They have reached out to officials, the media, advocacy groups, legal representatives, government representatives. These processes can be slow when it comes to changing things on a large enough scale to ensure that real, permanent, solid reform happens. It's a huge problem. There are major groups like SIA, HEAL, and CAFETY (the actual organized group of NBGA survivors works with all three, in addition to several activist groups) leading organized and peaceful protests, holding public awareness conferences, and collecting data and submitting it to the Government Accountability Office. Based on the public outcry and the statistical analysis of the human rights violations which occur within these homes - running amok and lining their pockets with all the money desperate families can give - bills have been introduced. Blatant problems in the US which the government takes time to do anything about... unheard of?
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King James I
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
It's too bad that icu2 doesn't practice what she preaches.
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Toads Tool
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
I disagree my3cents rabblerouser. ICU2 made her point that the girl who's opinion differed and everyone else has the right to hold opinions without interference on this site and no one has the right to attempt to stifle speech that doesn't agree with their opposing opinions or experiences. Both sides have a right to be heard. Nowhere in her comment history has she attempted to stifle someone's speech, not even you my3 cents jerks.
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JesBar
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Dec 11, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Lots of people have to understand that the McNamaras are aware of what us survivors are up to. NBGA is a lot less abusive than it used to be. I was in the home from 2004 to 2008. Within those four years the home lightened up a lot, because they knew survivors were finally getting together to make a difference. The McNamaras have been watching their backs for a long time now. I'm not saying that NBGA isn't abusive anymore, but the girls are probably being treated a little better now because the Macs know everyone is waiting for them to really mess up so we can shut them down for good. So great work girls! Our words are not only helping to put a stop to this madness, but I'm sure our words are helping the poor girls attending NBGA now have a less painful experience.
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Simone Jones
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Dec 12, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
For those of you who apparently DO NOT understand. NBGA is an Independent Fundamental Baptist home/program. Therefore, they use the phrase from the constitution, in regards to the seperation of church and state, as thier claim to NOT being investigated by the state. They claim the the seperation between church and state gives them the right to complete privacy. (No state interference) This is NOT what the constitution is refering to, they just use it that way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state
This does NOT give any 'religious' person the right to abuse CHILDREN! They simply use it as a guise, a cover-up, an excuse, as well as a type of sickening power play, on innocent CHILDREN.
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Toads Tool
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Dec 12, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
I don't think there is anyone here who does not understand that. We are not the mentally damaged ones here.
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my3cents will never die
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Dec 12, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
THE TOADSTOLL HAS BROKEN LOOSE, AND HEADING FOR MY3CENTS VILLE!! LOOK OUT!!!
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impudentone
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Dec 12, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Regardless of how they use it, the state can and will investigate claims of abuse that fall under the state's definition of buse. Apparently, WE DO understand . Most of us on this site are highly educatd individuals with multiple degrees and /or doctorates.
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Simone Jones
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Dec 12, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Highly educated individuals, with multiple degrees and/or doctorates? I have some as well, I don't feel the need to brag about it, as that is NOT the subject we are discussing here.
The subject of this COMPLAINT board is NBGA. And the abuse that happened to the ladies posting here. They are trying to give their opinions, as to what they went through while at NBGA. They are warning parents about what happens to children at NBGA. They are the ones who experienced it. The original post is from a parent, who was deceived, and has to pick up the pieces of the damage that was done to her child.
I could go in to the deceptive marketing, and fraud that NBGA is guilty of, but that is something that can easily be viewed at the HEAL site.
The McNameras were originally residents in a couple of Roloffs homes. After 'graduating' the programs, they were taken under the wing of another man. Named Wylie Cameron. Wylies wife Faye, was FOREVER banned from working with children at any of the homes. http://www.caller.com/news/2000/apr/28/state-forever-bans-roloff-home-leaders-wife-working/. So they took a couple of former addicts, and placed them in charge of teen-aged girls?
If any of you have doubts that this is a recipe for disaster, you are the ones that are in need of some mental health assistance.
While this is an open forum, for everyone to voice their own experiences, it clearly states above that it is for COMPLAINTS against NBGA. I don't see how this isn't clear to those of you who disagree? While you have your right to disagree. Name calling, accusations of these women needing mental help, calling them liars, and acting as if only your opinion matters. Will never stop them from voicing their experiences. It only gives them more drive to keep on going! I support their efforts 100%, and will stand beside them in helping to get NBGA (and other places just like it) shut down.
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Chowderhed
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Dec 12, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
Imp wasn't bragging IMO, just pointing out your pomposity in assuming that others don't understand that the program is a seperate fundamental entity and therefore isn't governed by state. I don't see how you can't understand the concept of PUBLIC forum. You act as though only your opinion and experience matters and is the only thing that should be allowed on a public site. Nobody is trying to stop you from voicing your experiences, only pointing out that others have the same right to voice their experiences and opinions.
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SulkySue
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Dec 12, 2011
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Abusive treatment facility
@ Simone - You can't have your cake and eat it too on a public board. Everyone has a right to put their 2 cents in.
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